In November, 2017, Bridie was appointed the inaugural Head of the Office for Women in Sport and Recreation by the Victorian Government and in May, 2018 she published Life and Death a cycling memoir about her experiences as a professional cyclist in the international peloton. This year, Australias most unique slashie will again join the SBS commentary team for the Tour De France when it kicks off on Saturday 26 June. In 2007, she began road cycling and in 2008 after winning the National Time Trial title, she raced on the Australian National Team, and then Professional teams in Europe and the United States, representing Australia at three World Championships. Thank you for listening and turning up the volume on womens sport. Organisations that deliver Sport and Recreation to Victorians that are funded by government. You mentioned a couple of times there Bridie in the last few minutes about the Fitbit the free to air TV that that makes a big difference in terms of exposure for womens sports. In 2007 she began road cycling and in 2008 after winning the national time trial title she raced on the Australian national team and then professional teams in Europe and the United States representing Australia at three world championships. And if you say those things about women or you you devalue women and show them no respect. The way to solve those critics is to. Were you very very active from a child like most Australian girls. So what we know about women in sport in Australia is it has extraordinary links to the importance of just challenging our rigid gender stereotypes. Thats sort of resistent attitude. I mean being an elite athlete and representing your country or being the best in the world is such an incredibly privileged little bubble to live in. O'donnell is a world champion road cyclist, a . The two women who coached in the first season got and McCown one of whom won the premiership cannot get a job here. So it had both sides of politics supporting the inquiry and it was chaired by an American. And yet the WNBA all is a really as a league that is struggling and has struggled to get investment. And I think that is a conundrum too about you know we do need bums on seats and we do need the women to be attending sports events and filling these stadiums too. Now if we come back to Australia and we look at the WB ls a great example we have the fourth season of The Womens Big Bash. Bridie O'Donnell (@bridie_od) Instagram photos and videos bridie_od Follow 6,376 posts 7,146 followers 670 following Bridie O'Donnell Eagerly anticipating my next nap This Account is Private Already follow bridie_od? And since Title 9 in the United States were seeing now a third generation of girls and women benefiting from legislation that allows them to receive the same financial support at universities. We venture into the book with an excerpt from Chapter 7, where ODonnell recounts what she saw when she headed to Europe to race for an Italian team in 2010. It also saved me when we would arrive at 2.5 star motels with awful pillows that inevitably led to terrible sleep. And she said if thats how theyre talking about me on social media what are they. O'Donnell said her primary education was also unique, going to the Blackall Range Independent School, which shunned traditional classroom education and held many lessons run by parents. From 2013-2016, Bridie also managed and raced for Rush Womens Team, a National Road Series cycling team in Australia. Well why doesnt the UCI the governing body say if you want to hold a rice race licence you have to broadcast X amount and you have to provide the footage and everyone would pass the buck and say its not their job. So learning that online is not good enough. Our guest this week is Dr. Bridie ODonnell who is head of the Office for Women in Sport and Recreation in Melbourne Australia and she is here to discuss the issues affecting women and girls from her perspective. I discovered this when I was a professional cyclist, and realised it was the only way to be comfortable while squished in the back of a team van during the long 14-hour road trip all the way from central Italy to northern Spain for a bike race. [00:37:23] It doesnt all have to look the same way but no one is fully prepared for her job. Where did that money go and why are we not seeing as much content as we would like and the WNBA is a great example. She also graduated with a Master in Public Administration from the Australia and New Zealand School of Government (ANZSOG) in 2021. And as the saying goes you know you cant be what you cant see that that access is critically important. 2018 saw ODonnell publish Life and Death, a memoir detailing her experiences as a cyclist in Europe. So they have funded a national program around women in leadership and coaching theyve basically selected 16 scholarship holders from all over the country and are cultivating those. Copyright 2017 All Rights Reserved. Thank you so much. And I do find myself thinking that a lot whatever work Im doing I think you know what Ive been in a worse situation than this. These werent really. But if youre just mediocre as a girl you tend to drop out whereas boys who are mediocre keep going. Im not suggesting that we all need to endure. [00:10:12] So what did being a professional. Bridie ODonnell shares three special things. What theyve also done is looked around and thought Wow we dont have a lawyer or we dont have a community fund raiser or we dont have a person who understands around membership protection. Talent transfer athletes had basic physiology that was often dramatically different from other riders, and we lacked the innate riding instincts that come from growing up in cycling-mad European countries. But there are very many ways and Peggy ONeills who I mentioned before she is an extraordinary example of a person who delivers leadership in her own style. So all I need to do my job is curiosity persistence support from my employer and my colleagues and a willingness to learn and anyone can do any job when they had those four characteristics. Brady thank you so much for taking time to come on the show today. We have had women meddling in basketball at the Olympics for five six Olympics and yet and we have some of the best basketball is in the world have come from Australia. First, she worked as a medical practitioner. Systems around unconscious bias around myths of maintaining confidentiality so we dont want to have a mentee follow the head coach male coach around or retaining information and privacy that you cant have women in mens spaces because you know sexuality issues or nudity or whatever. Her years on the road as a cyclist taught ODonnell a lot, including the importance of a good nights sleep. A friend of mine was doing a triathlon Id never ridden a bike before and Id never done a running race and Id only just swum for you know learning that school. You know we had yes we had the Olympics in 1956 we had the Sydney Olympics in 2000 we were one of the first countries in the world to have an institute of sport. How should where should the money be directed from. Now how do you do you have any thought so. And I think also our sporting nature nation culture is a bit is a bit mythical. Yeah theyve just won the Ashes they won the World Cup. You know the cricket team and others. [00:04:00] Mel Jones is an international test cricketer here from from Victoria was the face of that campaign but it wasnt until 2017 when the Minister for Sport announced that he would create an Office for Women in Sport that would be dedicated to pursuing the outcomes of these nine recommendations that he would staff them. We have 17 per cent of school aged children are getting the required amount of physical exercise every day of one hour one hour of movement and only 17 percent of kids are getting it. And what Im asking them to do is think differently about something and that can be for some of them deeply threatening. The core values of WiSP Sports are based on the following principles to: WiSP Sports, Inc. What does this say. And then when theyre not the fastest anymore they dont know what to do next. Yeah theyve just won the Ashes they won the World Cup. But what were seeing now is many more questions about how Okay okay we get it but how are we going to do it. So sports shapes you in all of these ways and you you I guess you have this benchmark and you think you know what I have done harder shit than this. Eighty five per cent of those women were new women. But as you saw not only from the extraordinary performances of the US national womens team but the one point one billion viewers and the stadiums that were packed out is that people want to see and witness the best quality sport on offer. We wont be able to convince our state politicians and federal politicians to invest in a womens football tournament. Six years of med school was helpful but actually following around the senior doctor and thinking Okay heres what being a surgeon involves. [00:35:56] Systems around unconscious bias around myths of maintaining confidentiality so we dont want to have a mentee follow the head coach male coach around or retaining information and privacy that you cant have women in mens spaces because you know sexuality issues or nudity or whatever. She is currently single. In 2007 she began road cycling and in 2008 after winning the national time trial title she raced on the Australian national team and then professional teams in Europe and the United States representing Australia at three world championships. Once, an Aussie teammate had to be given a break from racing to allow her to gain some weight. I would imagine on your To Do list we do have a huge agenda and we have just a small team but we but theyre terrific. So the bar was really high so I got my arse handed handed to me every single race. [00:06:43] But as youve seen globally weve been taken over by Russia China the UK and definitely the US. Weve seen as we said three seasons of AFL W and yet in this third season 0 teams of the 10 were coached by women which is mind boggling. But that said you know the mens AFL league started over 100 years ago with zero scrutiny and social media to criticize it. Bridie O'Donnell's tumultuous tenure at . The third thing that was really vital for us is access to facilities. They would have a budget over a four year cycle and they would then work alongside the Department of Sport and Rec to oversee policy. Peggy is an amazing trailblazer here in Australia and she chaired and there were some very important influential powerful athletes and administrators women and men involved in this inquiry that published a report at the end of 12 months and what they had looked into were some specific data around a number of women girls participating in sport access to facilities that these women and girls have number of women in leadership positions in sport. But you also then when you come out the other side of that and transition into civilian life as I like to call it you also realize just how unimportant that is as well. They would have a budget over a four year cycle and they would then work alongside the Department of Sport and Rec to oversee policy. Women like Angela Merkel and Christine Lagarde You know Theresa May. Inwardly, I shook my head contemplating the likely osteoporosis resulting from her weight loss, the amenorrhoea and the malnutrition. We know that not all violence against women is due to environments that people grow up in but it all starts from a lack of respect. That photograph was circulated by a very well-known AFL photographer here Michael Wilson whos received awards for the photo. The dilemma for me was obvious: my concern for her health, and my medical knowledge about the long-term effects on her body and her mind, let alone her career, were constantly in my thoughts. Pic: Collingwood FC/Instagram. It blew my mind. Our guest this week is Dr. Bridie ODonnell, Head of the Office for Women in Sport and Recreation in Melbourne, Australia to discuss the issues affecting women and girls from her perspective, the progress that the organization has made to advance women and girls participation in sport and the challenges that lie ahead. They would need to have 40 per cent women on the boards of these organisations acknowledging these were all volunteer positions. [00:34:24] So theres a couple of prongs to this attack if you like. She is a member of famous with the age 48 years old group. Whats that look like for you now. The upper limit of the lightweight category was 59kg, and the majority of women who rowed for Australia were heavyweights. And if youve said to me a year ago that Id be sitting down with other jurisdictions and talking about how important it was that we are going to bid for the Womens World Cup football in 2023 to host that in four years time I would have thought Id. Where are you. And how about the increase in female coaches. What theyve also done is looked around and thought Wow we dont have a lawyer or we dont have a community fund raiser or we dont have a person who understands around membership protection. And so whilst were not where we need to be in terms of pay equality and the number of women in leadership positions and the doors that are open to girls and women of all abilities and all genders and all racial backgrounds we are certainly much in a much better position than we have been even two years ago. The Silver Ferns where were sitting and we also saw and Im sure this photograph reached across the world is the photograph of Taylor Harris That was the most glorious examination and image of a woman kicking sheet. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. But what were seeing now is many more questions about how Okay okay we get it but how are we going to do it. You can imagine there were dozens or they said to me you know 100 women and men applied for this job. The progress that the organization has made to advance women and girls participation in sport and the challenges that lie ahead. But we also need the networks to to buy into it too because at the end of the day everybody benefits if they have the foresight to invest in it at whatever level. Thank you so much for having me on. They came away from the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games last year with some pretty sobering data. After rotating through various Medical and Surgical departments as part of junior residency she moved to Melbourne in 2001. So I was appointed in November 2017. Another of my pro teammates restricted her carbohydrate intake for the eight weeks leading into a major race, losing 20% of her body weight, and she placed third overall, securing herself a strong result and a bonus from her bike sponsor (bonus is probably too strong a word for it; when women cyclists get a bonus from a bike sponsor, it tends to be $500 or $1000, for men it might be a million Euro for a Tour de France win). I would grab Gypsy, my rescue greyhound, and some family heirlooms that might be of very little value to others but are of great sentimental value to me. And it has been outstanding and we are now supporting New Zealand South Australia W.A. I began by asking Bridie how the organisation came about. But you also then when you come out the other side of that and transition into civilian life as I like to call it you also realize just how unimportant that is as well. There and can use those facilities and feel part of a club. But its early days but theres no doubt that what were seeing now is instead of the why we used to there would have been a lot of the why why should we fund womens sport or why women arent as good as men. So we all bore the moody behaviour for the good of the team. And unfortunately under that category of niche was womens sports. [00:39:37] And if youd like to find out more about Bridies work and the organization you could find a link in the show notes accompanying this episode at WiSP Sports dot com. About so many things I could have done better. So seeing those women on the field on the pool deck beside the court looking authoritative I mean some of those great images of Becky Hammon whos been the assistant coach at San Antonio looking up to those extraordinarily tall NBA players knowing that shes been a former WNBA champion herself is really powerful. Has this been a lifelong passion and did you. Collingwood's latest addition to the club's embattled board denies she became a Magpies member after being approached to join. The progress that the organization has made to advance women and girls participation in sport and the challenges that lie ahead. CEOs and board directors and the stats are mind boggling 96 percent of women in leadership positions across all industries have been competitive athletes. Were making sure we support every organisation and their attacks on. And that I think has been the extraordinary difference for professional womens sporting leagues and teams is that theyve had to grow and blossom and be criticised in the most ridiculous level of scrutiny both on social media from anonymous abusers but also from just you know male commentators saying this is boring I dont like watching this and it wasnt that long ago that I was commentating Road World Cycling Championships and we were hearing commentators from other countries saying this is a boring race nothings happening with therefore womens cycling is boring without any insight into the idea that these women are not only different physiological beasts but its a different race with different team numbers. I was allocated a coach in my state, persisted through that year then won the time-trials in the Oceania and National Championships. And of course theyre related. According to our Database, She has no children. But more of them are mind lovingly great and a privilege an absolute privilege to work in an industry to be paid a salary every fortnight to do something that is affecting change for millions of people is a distinct privilege and I just I know its the job of my lifetime. and theres been so such a lack of diverse thinking that you know these people generally all the same age that probably went to school together and so by by asking them to have a quota and bring women in. Bridie welcome to the program. It meant I was surrounded either by taller, heavier womentheir physical prowess enviableor small, wiry and dynamic lightweights, who were always adding a run or an extra ride to their countless on-water sessions. Were seeing this more in the year in the UK and in parts of Europe with the different networks too. Ultimately the hard work, planning, persistence and determination lead her to. Thats a powerful image of a man who knows her sport. They drop out at all different parts of their lives milestones of their lives for example university or pregnancy or menopause or an aged parts of their lives. Well I was active as a kid but I wasnt good at anything and we certainly had a bit of a culture of high achievement when it comes to sport and particularly we know this from from the data that girls who are really great at sport get supported and cultivated not only by their parents but by coaches by schools. "It was the ideal way to grow up I suppose; my sister and I would explore all day long and then go to school during the week," she said. You know we have a really a problem in Australia against violence against women. Dr Bridie ODonnell is a bike race commentator for SBS, medical practitioner and former professional road cyclist. In 2016, at age 42, she broke the womens world record for the longest distance covered by bike in one hour. There are still definitely haters and trolls and people who are abusive. Dr O'Donnell is a medical doctor, graduating from the University of Queensland's school of medicine in 1998 and is the current head of the Office for Woman in Sport and Recreation for the Victorian State Government. So it actually wasnt until I was in my second year of medical school I went straight into medical school out of high school and I started doing a triathlon. [00:34:19] And how about the increase in female coaches. So were not even retaining our high performance coaches from one Commonwealth Games to another. But as you saw not only from the extraordinary performances of the US national womens team but the one point one billion viewers and the stadiums that were packed out is that people want to see and witness the best quality sport on offer. Where should there be time slots in broadcast opportunities and how can we get the free to air channels to show the nipple World Cup or why. [00:14:07] We are in such a rapid time of change that its quite discombobulating. She is from Australia. Womens educations and capabilities are not a problem. Then, in her mid-30s, O'Donnell made the sharp pivot to professional cycling, a field where she. Look at the proof of how thats raised the profile of womens soccer in this country because thats now on free to air TV and you can find that on the networks every week during season some of the coaches say oh sorry to interrupt you but I was just thinking about a lot of the coaches will say high performance coaches will say they still want to see people at games and that Lisa Alexander talks about this with netball and the super nimble coaches will say we want you to come. Equally with Sydney in this country and the population of Victorias about eight and a half million and we have 115 now. [00:02:41] How did that organization come about when did it get its funding. We don't have much information about She's past relationship and any previous engaged. [00:29:01] I would imagine on your To Do list we do have a huge agenda and we have just a small team but we but theyre terrific. Ultimately the hard work, planning, persistence and determination lead her to a truly extraordinary sporting performance when, at the age of 41, she set aUCI Hour Record in January 2016 with a distance of 46.882 kilometres. A few decades later, my grandfather decided to propose to my grandmother, and he asked his future mother-in-law for the medal. I think no go do the deal with our channel 7 9 or 10 or ABC or SBS which are our national broadcasters because its not good enough anymore to just say oh thats not our job. How should where should the money be directed from. and theres been so such a lack of diverse thinking that you know these people generally all the same age that probably went to school together and so by by asking them to have a quota and bring women in. You know theres this myth that oh lets just train more women lets give them coaching courses lets educate them. We want fans to experience those games because that then also leads to TV viewership and that if youve never been to a WNBA game or at Suncorp if Nepal or if I thought w the atmosphere is wonderful and very family friendly nowhere near the same levels of aggression and violence. And if I had had men in the public service say youll never be able to be this boss of this office and run this budget do make this change because youve never done it before then. And the idea around comparison is actually incredibly unhelpful and quite ignorant by a lot of commentators. [00:35:41] So what we know about women as coaches is that their lack of qualifications is not the thing. Log in to see their photos and videos. Or you can post your comments on our social media at Facebook Instagram and Twitter or LinkedIn. Bridie: In 2007, Cycling Australia put a call out to other sports for athletes with the potential to become time trialists. I soon realised the reason for her meandering: the beauty of riding for long, slow hours with no money on her was that she wouldnt be tempted or able to eat. And we have nowhere near enough adult women participating in organised sport. Bridie was the first woman to join SBS Cycling to commentate the Tour de France, covering the race in 2020 and 2021. He was a loud, confident, successful and brash 30-something whose squad contained World Champions, Olympians and World Cup winners in an era when Olympic Distance triathlon was a huge money earner.. Bridie O'Donnell has enjoyed two very different careers. Devastatingly however, it was working: her illnessI saw it clearly as an illnesswas performance-enhancing. About so many things I could have done better. And she said if thats how theyre talking about me on social media what are they. And if I had had men in the public service say youll never be able to be this boss of this office and run this budget do make this change because youve never done it before then. And when Peggy talks people listen. Ive been an athlete than a successful athlete. They drop out at all different parts of their lives milestones of their lives for example university or pregnancy or menopause or an aged parts of their lives. ODonnell has written about the experience in her newly released book Life and Death, which not only tells the tale of the personal journey, but also shines a light on many of the issues those in the womens peloton have to grapple with if they choose to chase cycling success. Now shes a young AFL footballer playing for Carlton who has not only incredible strength and agility but she has this kicking style thats very characteristic for her. I arrived in that sport aged 26, weighing just below 70kg, which put me right in the middle of two body types. There was definitely a bumpy start and Im sure that the governing body the AFL they did receive criticism. By 1 July of this year and with an amazing amount of work and meetings and resistance and some yelling by some cranky aggrieved gentleman who were long term president saying I know women but I just dont know any woman who wants to be on this board and I think to myself I know why Barry day we got to 93 per cent of those funded organisations by 1 July who would achieve 40 percent or more and the other 7 per cent of them which is about 10 organisations were working with and meeting with every month and there may be extraordinary general meetings and theyre bringing women in and what we know about this is that whatever your feelings are about quotas I they work be they force an exploration of your existing board which is the best outcome because for so many people theyve just said we just need seven people. Bridie also managed and reached for Rush womens team a national road series cycling team in Australia in 2016. Its not actually how well am I getting along with my family my children my wife my husband my parents. But the Lottery funding in the UK has boosted all kinds of sports that otherwise would never have had the exposure and certainly reached and mentor and Ill know the position in the Olympics particularly Paralympics. [00:25:11] Yeah. And like so many of them I took a chance of you know quitting my job as a physician where I was working behaviour change because I just felt that this was a unique opportunity and remarkable way for me to have an influence over the lives and the outcomes of so many girls and women that I didnt have when I was coming through sport and that so many girls and women who are who have a disability or who are from a multicultural background or from a marginalized communities definitely dont have in Australia. If we were to simplify wed say our three strategic priorities are increasing the number of girls and women participating in sport and aggression. But I had incredibly supportive colleagues and certainly the public service is very good at that. At the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, she worked in the Industry Recovery Group of Department of Jobs, Precincts and Regions, and was then appointed Executive Director for the Public Events Team. You know all those generalised resistance statements that a lot of people have which is Im okay with girls playing footy but I dont want to watch women doing it on TV. Theyre powerful for girls growing up. She is quite reserved. When people talk about the sacrifices required of women in sport, they rarely consider body image and physical health, but if my years in the professional peloton taught me anything, its that this problem requires a far greater level of understanding and care. After rotating through various Medical and Surgical departments as part of junior residency she moved to Melbourne in 2001. Bridie O'Donnell took to cycling late, but a rapid rise to the top ranks of the Australian scene fuelled her ambitions. Thats where all of our networking events support it. Just a little over 18 months I want to dig a little bit deeper into what youre working on now because Australia of course seems in many ways to tell us and the rest of the world is one of the leaders when it comes to womens sports in terms of equality and opportunity facilities and so on. The citation noted Dr O'Donnell's extensive work as a physician, professional athlete and gender equality expert, becoming the inaugural Director of the Victorian Government's Office for Women in Sport and Recreation . 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